Ugly, ugly people with nothing to do. It's not only in the kampungs..these people with way too much time on their hands can be found anywhere, no matter how sophisticated we think people are.

As for the tabloidisation, we get what we ask for.

It's the same double standard all over again.. when a man sleeps around, he's a stud, when a woman sleeps around, she's a slut..

No matter how many centuries ppl live in, the stigma to women is neverending. it's really really sad..

The defence for Hanif has no choice. They have a job to do, and this is probably the best way to do it to save that man's life: cast reasonable doubt on the prosecution's case.

Its a sucky way to get off, but its his only real defence right now.

Of course, the victims are Noritta's family as the trial drags on and on with all the murky details coming out, and i sympathize for them. But i also sympathize for Hanif's family.

What I cant understand why Noritta made herself so cheap that later cost her life. Pity for a young muslim lady who got rupa but prefer the fast lane to find glamour via the dirtiest form of profession.

I think we should fight the urge to judge. Whatever happened, it's between her and God. There's a lesson here to learn, and it should point to ourselves.

Come on you guys, let it go. It's a sad tragedy and that's it.

I find the media coverage to be so graphical in its description that its perverse at times.

It's one thing when we look at the issue and use it as a reminder and a source of reflection to ourselves - and keep it to ourselves.

It's completely another thing to take the issue, propagate it, write and forward emails about it without knowing the real truth (emails of the 'My friend's cousin knows a neighbour who is related to the coroner / forensic expert variety); and worse still, trying to make a quick buck or two by printing stories of her with the intention of shaming her family with a holier-than-thou stance.

For what it's worth, she is already considered baligh and responsible for her own actions. Yes, her parents are good people - but faith isn't something that is inherited or a birthright. Whatever she did, that is between her and Allah; unless you were a close friend of hers, you knew whatever it was that she was doing was wrong and you never discouraged her from it.

The best that we could do is to pray for her soul to be in peace and for both families to be strong.

Ameen.

if you do not hear it yourself from the coroner or the people involved then it is just hearsay. my closest friend knows things like people's salaries, that the geologist who murdered his wife was a real loving etc. I usually put a quick stop to his tales and he thinks twice before telling me. No way these things are known to all these people who professes that they do. The next thing someone wants to tell you about a juicy tidbit of an ongoing trial or whatever, ask him first did he get it first hand or the 17th hand.

I think people forget that however the victim lived - whether she was "bad" or "good" by society's standards - the fact here is that she was murdered and deserves justice. She does not deserve the character assasination that's happening in the papers.

I'm pretty sure the media is probably just reporting the case as it proceeds in court. The court is open to the public. So what's the difference between going to court to hear it yourself and reading it in the papers?

Are we suggesting some element of censorship here?

is it necessary to pass judgement? esp on dead people? I always believe something happened for a reason, it's up to us to learn from it.